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Post by GKRC Publicity Officer on Oct 21, 2007 12:40:29 GMT 10
Just to get things started for next year,
What would Goulburn members like to see for our 2008 rounds?
Which tracks would you like to go to?
What prizes would entice you to commit to the full championship?
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Post by are on Oct 22, 2007 8:58:39 GMT 10
Any track would be suitable,but I feel we should also go to a country track (maybe Grenfell) but make this a non championship round as those that are not able to travel to this round would not be disadvantaged if they where running the club championship. As to prizes I don't think this is the answer as it will absorb some of the clubs funds and if you don't get the numbers entered you cant withdraw the prizes therefore you lose more money. Secondly how would this work if we don't have a home track anymore and we are racing at another clubs venue.Are prizes only on offer to GKRC members?Personally I think this would be opening a can of worms but I am happy for someone to set me straight in how they would think this would work? regards ARE
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Post by GKRC Publicity Officer on Oct 22, 2007 12:27:16 GMT 10
Hey are,
You have definitely got some good points!
If we were to go to somewhere like Grenfell, what about keeping the 'drop your worst round' rule so that people could choose to miss this round? Otherwise we might not get anyone turning up at an 'away' round!
Prizes I think would be for the overall championship. We would be trying to get class/club sponsors to provide prizes so as not to absorb too many club funds. Prizes would definitely only be open to GKRC members.
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Post by are on Oct 27, 2007 15:58:03 GMT 10
Why cant we run a class of " run what you brung " this would allow us to have a class that could cater for people that wanted to run a kart that did not fit a specific AKA category.Basically an open class - similar to sports sedan class for cars.As long as basic safety was met at scrutineering then you should be able to race. Surely we could hire a non aka track (since we are now a drivers club) and still run a race meeting and those that dont have an AKA licence could come and race and alternatively we could maybe entice NEW KARTERS to come and try before you buy by offering them a few test sessions. Surely this is achievable as track insurance is taken car of by the people that we are hiring the track from or alternatively each individual buys a track licence as part of the entry fee and therefore we would be each running under the hiring tracks insurance as the club is not hiring the track but the individual is paying the fee directly to the circuit promoters. I am keen to see if anyone else is keen to build or modify a kart to run in a "open class" and if this can be promoted and run. What about enduro for tag type karts? On the subject of insurance what are the requirements for running a race meeting could someone from the commitee comment and educate me in this direction?
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Post by GKRC Publicity Officer on Oct 29, 2007 9:57:18 GMT 10
I don't think the Goulburn club could be involved in a non-AKA race meeting. www.kartsportnews.com/101907-2.html They have said that any officials who take part in a non-AKA race meeting automatically forfeit their AKA accreditation.
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Post by are on Oct 30, 2007 6:44:08 GMT 10
Thanks for posting the link to the letters from the AKA.It is good they inform people about the insurance issues but other than that competitors should be allowed to race where they choose.Is the AKA saying that if it is to do with Karting then they hold the exclusive rights to this?It sounds a bit restrictive doesnt it ,after all everyone should be allowed a bite at the karting pie?Yes there is a need for the AKA but obviously there is a demand for non AKA sanctioned tracks and facilities as if there wasnt they would not survive. I know competitors that race both AKA and non AKA sanctioned events and in regards to competitors using their AKA competition licence to enter , most non AKA tracks that I know of do not recognise this and you must have a track license from the appropriate track to race. It appears that we have the CAMS versus non cams events brewing in the karting world.I know of 2 non cams series that run A.M.R.S. (circuit racing) and AMSAG (rallying) they run sucessfully and have competitors that race CAMS and NON CAMS events and both of these series have not effected the running of themselves or cams. After all a lot of AKA racers may have started life driving at a hire kart facility without this initial input they may not have got the bug to go racing. Instead of rattling sabres maybe the AKA should look at developing a link from the hire kart world / non aka race meeting and try to promote the racing side of the sport as the next evolution from ground level introduction that these facilities are providing. AFTER ALL DONT WE ALL WANT THE SAME THING FOR KARTING TO SURVIVE.IF KARTING IS HEALTHY THEN WE HAVE STRONG CLUBS,PLENTY OF MEMBERS,ROOM FOR AKA AND NON AKA AND A HEALTHY INDUSTRY THAT CAN LOOK FORWARD TO EXPANSION (I AM SURE THE KART SHOPS / RETAILERS AND MANUFACTURES WOULD LIKE THIS). WITHOUT THE HUMBLE KARTER THE INDUSTRY / SPORT SUFFERS AND THERE SEEMS TO BE A NEED FOR A GAME PLAN TO TAP INTO A SOURCE OF NEW BLOOD (driver education at a grass roots level-an intro into karting,promoting racing to recreational karters,new markets - training ground for future champions) regards -"the karter"
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Post by kaktus on Oct 30, 2007 17:14:03 GMT 10
As a fairly long term Goulburn member I would like to see the club try to entice the drivers it has into a good series but with some good competition. It sounds like the club is going to race at a few different tracks over the year but I think that careful choice of meetings is important. If I am going to join the club then and I need to travel to some country tracks from Sydney say 6 times over the year then I would like to know that when I get to the track that there will be a good field to race against. Senior National is very hit and miss as far as fields, but they seem to come out for the better meetings. I just came back from Orange for their "Pacific Titles", which had good fields in most classes (13 SNL). Also the Canberra cup had good fields (14 SNL). For me this meant good competition and it was worth going. I think that Goulburn should try to align itself to some of these "better" meetings which means that people like me will kill 2 birds with one stone, continue with Goulburn and also get to a range of the bigger meetings at each country club. A win for us karters, Goulburn and each country club. As far as prises go to encourage people to join the club, I don't think much works, we all do it for the enjoyment, (I don't really care about trophies or such). The only thing I can think of is perhaps Goulburn could negotiate with the "home" club and perhaps take a 50-50 split of the entry fees (after insurance costs,trophies, etc) it brings to each race event. The "home club" would not have got the entry without Goulburn, and Goulburn does not have to hire a track and all of its associated costs. This would mean that Goulburn could have some money to put up some small prises at the end of the season. The prises I think should be vouchers to shops/industry that support the club, which keeps everyone happy. My last point is to attract people to the club, people need to know about the club and what it is doing. This web site is OK but could do with some more CLUB INFO on it. The is also free advertising space on the NKN site in their forum for club news and results. Other kart sites also have the same. The kart mag has a club results and reports section every month (cost ) but still it means exposure for the clubs. Goulburn should utilize these type of things to promote the club. Cost effective and seen by the people who count (karters) and who could think, visiting other tracks, that sounds good. Thats my say. Phew.
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Post by GKRC Publicity Officer on Oct 30, 2007 17:47:32 GMT 10
Hey kaktus, thanks for those suggestions!
I too think going to the bigger meetings at country clubs would be a good idea, but we also want to support those clubs for when they don't get many entries.
The website is only a temporary thing until I get some time (in a few weeks) to do a proper job.
The thing with club news is that there hasn't really been any news lately, we haven't had any race meetings for a while and the 2008 season hasn't been decided. I will definitely use the many avenues to promote the club when things begin rolling again.
Thanks again.
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Post by Chris Parks on Oct 31, 2007 0:24:07 GMT 10
I think we are headed down a blind alley. Travel is expensive and just travelling to Goulburn and weekend expenses was stretching the budget, Grenfell is another kettle of fish altogether. Leave Friday night if we want to practise on Saturday, two nights accommodation, I am sure you get the picture. What other country tracks are there within affordable distance in both time and money? Canberra & Lithgow I guess. We used to race at WP for the facilities as much as anything else and no track can match that. Kembla Grange is just down the road and we haven't raced there for years as WP had such good facilities.
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Post by kaktus on Nov 26, 2007 19:50:04 GMT 10
I vas wondering if someone from the Goulburn club can tell us what is happening as far as race dates for next season. I have looked on the kart mag site and read the racing calender for 2008 and there is no mention of Goulburn dates. Could someone please post some info so that we can start to plan for next season. Thanks
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Post by GKRC Publicity Officer on Nov 26, 2007 20:06:43 GMT 10
The Goulburn rounds do not appear in the calendar because the club is no longer racing at its own track and will be attending other clubs rounds. The Goulburn rounds will need to be negotiated with other clubs. When the 2008 NSW calendar is made official, and the rounds have been organised and confirmed, they will be posted on the website and mailed to all members.
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Post by kaktus on Nov 27, 2007 14:06:58 GMT 10
Thanks for the info and the prompt return.
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Post by josh84 on Jan 21, 2008 19:09:48 GMT 10
-Oran park -Newcastle -Camberra -Wollongong One day race meetings
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Post by GKRC Publicity Officer on Jan 21, 2008 21:34:33 GMT 10
4 rounds have been decided, Oran Park and Wollongong have been included, and two 'away' tracks. These will be posted out soon and published on the website.
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Post by josh84 on Jan 23, 2008 16:44:28 GMT 10
Got letter in mail today, good choice of tracks
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